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  • Winner takes ALL

    Google Yahoo Facebook etc
    Read the comments. Like this one below.

    Maybe I will kick the internet into touch just like TV. Except for business and this site.

    "The promise of the greatest library in history isn't worth the fact that the internet is simply destroying the first world. By that I mean the very fabric of social norms. Young people are basing their self worth on likes, retweets, and followers. Beyond the ever consuming quest to take the perfect selfie, the trolling has become possibly even more scary than children obsessing over seeking as much attention as possible for the anonymous eyes of the internet, we pass our time by bashing anyone and everyone like we are all stuck at 13. I can't help but wonder what parents would say to their kids if their kids read everything their parents ever posted and the hypocrisy of teaching the kids to do antiquated things like treating someone the way you would d wanna be treated. The warp speed degradation of society in this country and around the world can be directly attributed to social media. Think about it. Is this who you want to be? We were better off without the miracle of the internet. Useful information in an instant is not worth the cost of social medias trolling and attention desperation."

    Today is the World Wide Web's 29th birthday, and to celebrate the occasion, its creator has told us how bad it's become. In an open letter appearing in The Guardian, Tim Berners-Lee painted a bleak picture of the current internet -- one dominated by a handful of colossal platforms that have constricted innovation and obliterated the rich, lopsided archipelago of blogs and small sites that came before. It's not too late to change, Lee wrote, but to do so, we need a dream team of business, tech, government, civil workers, academics and artists to cooperate in building "the web we all want."
    Last edited by trubrit2411; 13 March 2018, 23:19.
    "If they control your speech.....they control your life"
    Me



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    Re: Winner takes ALL

    TBL could easily have been the richest man in the world by a long way if he hadn't been so selfless.
    "We're surrounded on all sides... Good... you're obviously in the right place".

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      Deliberately avoided facebook, tweet, twitter, and any other birdlike sound. Worry about my 20 year old grandson who cannot even eat a meal without communicating with some arse. His girl friend was beside herself for weeks because some t**t had posted something derogatory about her. I worry about their ability to deal with 'real' life face to face issues. Sad!

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        Its true as well. They are hanging themselves all over the place here. What if they had to deal with Nobby Arnold or Joe Lee ??? .... FFS
        Last edited by trubrit2411; 14 March 2018, 20:28.
        "If they control your speech.....they control your life"
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          Re: Winner takes ALL

          Originally posted by trubrit2411 View Post
          Its true as well. They are hanging themselves all over the place here. What if they had to deal with Knobby Arnold or Joe Lee ??? .... FFS
          ha-ha, the millennials do not have a fuuckin clue about real life. I believe national service needs to come back. you can serve in the military or civil duties, clean up the country side whatever, they the kids need to believe in something....wait a minute they do it is called social media.
          shankhill rd to the battle school " carpe diem"

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            Originally posted by billy meikle View Post
            ha-ha, the millennials do not have a fuuckin clue about real life. I believe national service needs to come back. you can serve in the military or civil duties, clean up the country side whatever, they the kids need to believe in something....wait a minute they do it is called social media.
            Agree Billy, 'national service' does not have to mean military, could be police, fire service, hospitals, old folks homes, work with deprived kids or even that thing the yanks had where they sent them overseas to get water to communities etc. What grips my f***ing shit is that our motorways and major roads are litter dumps, the filth and squalor is unbelievable, what the f**k anyone visiting this country must think of us does not bear thinking about. Then we have about 80,000 young blokes in nick with the best gym's, swimming pools, libraries, medical care etc. Put the t**ts on chain gangs to clean the shitholes up, time sentence off for work carried out, run away and time increase. It will probably be against their 'human rights' to have to work. F**ed up is one way to describe it!

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              Originally posted by billy meikle View Post
              ha-ha, the millennials do not have a fuuckin clue about real life. I believe national service needs to come back. you can serve in the military or civil duties, clean up the country side whatever, they the kids need to believe in something....wait a minute they do it is called social media.
              Advocated that for a long time Billy, introduce National Service again, and give them something to think about other than themselves !
              Bob (geordie) Watts

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                Shock to their system or wot! "You mean I av ta gerrouta me pit befoor 12 noon!"

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                  Originally posted by billy meikle View Post
                  ha-ha, the millennials do not have a fuuckin clue about real life. I believe national service needs to come back. you can serve in the military or civil duties, clean up the country side whatever, they the kids need to believe in something....wait a minute they do it is called social media.


                  Originally posted by standinthedoor View Post
                  Agree Billy, 'national service' does not have to mean military, could be police, fire service, hospitals, old folks homes, work with deprived kids or even that thing the yanks had where they sent them overseas to get water to communities etc. What grips my f***ing shit is that our motorways and major roads are litter dumps, the filth and squalor is unbelievable, what the f**k anyone visiting this country must think of us does not bear thinking about. Then we have about 80,000 young blokes in nick with the best gym's, swimming pools, libraries, medical care etc. Put the t**ts on chain gangs to clean the shitholes up, time sentence off for work carried out, run away and time increase. It will probably be against their 'human rights' to have to work. F**ed up is one way to describe it!


                  You're right Billy young people don't have a clue to 'real life' as we knew it, but is that really such a bad thing?

                  We had a better, education including free further education, and better job prospects, with the likelihood of a real apprenticeship for those that wanted it. We currently have better health, housing and lifestyles and overall standard of living in general.


                  When I think of leaving a cold draughty house to go to school on snowy/pissing wet days, with holes in my shoes or even going to school on alternate days while my brother and I shared the wearing of my mothers shoes, and having only one set of clothing for school and play, i'm glad we've progressed beyond that. Also the food choices etc, were far simpler, basically take it or leave it. Chicken was a once a year luxury for example and there was far less entertainment than now. I think, overall, we were grateful for what we had.

                  That said, I believe these days it's swung far too far in the opposite direction, and youngsters real life in terms of expectations is a universe away from ours. I don't think that NS would work well these days, whether in or out of the forces.

                  Young people, backed up by the rampant PC brigade, now seem to have a disproportionate sense of self entitlement. In their eyes, it's their 'right'
                  have what ever they want. The media in the form of so called celebrity gives them aspirational images/lifestyle to aim for whilst the reality is they do not, cannot, or will not put the effort in to achieve it.

                  I don't think NS in the forces would be a good thing, (for the forces) either. I know it worked before, but that was a much different generation. I believe NS would do youngsters the world of good in terms of building discipline, (esp self), fitness, confidence, respect (esp self), and trust. The experience of working in teams, the experiencing of things they probably wouldn't see/do in civvy st would help build a level of trust within them. All of this, could/would produce confident, responsible, decent citizens willing to do their bit and better themselves, (assuming they were decent to start with). Forcing them to join up would be detrimental to the forces in my opinion.

                  I know from past experience that compelling youngsters to do things won't work.

                  This is due to a number of factors, the false sense of entitlement I mentioned, their overblown perception of themselves as too good for menial tasks. For example, the school (residential), I worked in, used to, up to the 80's, get the boys out on the surrounding streets in coveralls picking up litter and generally clearing up, some even doing some gardening for the local pensioners.

                  I suggested we get the boys to do their own area cleaning within the school. You should've seen the looks I got from the PC brigade. They explained it used to happen, but some sandal wearing lentil chomper social worker thought it was degrading/demeaning for the boys and it stopped. I intended to mention adventure training for the NS reasons stated above, but decided against it, especially when I was informed that one of the lentil chompers had received their PhD using the basic thesis that this type of training was of no benefit you Young People. I did make a point of telling her later she was talking shite.

                  Ron, to get them doing similar projects as part of a civvy NS scheme wouldn't work either mate. I've seen these projects as part of a court imposed punishment, and to be honest they're a joke. In any case, if this work is there to be done they should create the jobs and pay people to do them. I think this would work, as the boys at my school would do nothing for nothing, but as soon as money is mentioned they are game.


                  I used to have some BG quotes on the classroom wall.



                  Last edited by Don the Mod; 14 March 2018, 18:26.
                  "We're surrounded on all sides... Good... you're obviously in the right place".

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                    "I know from past experience that compelling youngsters to do things won't work."

                    Thats what the Birch and the Cat o Nine Tails was for Don. B
                    eat the little twats....


                    "If they control your speech.....they control your life"
                    Me


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                    • #11
                      Re: Winner takes ALL

                      Originally posted by bob9739 View Post
                      Advocated that for a long time Billy, introduce National Service again, and give them something to think about other than themselves !
                      agree with bob and standinthedoor. here we have companies and private citizens that ADOPT A HIGHWAY and the convicts get a small stipend to clean up the sides of the roads. everything form paper trash to plastic bottles and buckets, fast food crap and lets not forget fuuckin starbucks, $7 for a coffee that is more like a icecream served in waxed paper containers and i guess a free pass to throw it anywhere ye like.
                      shankhill rd to the battle school " carpe diem"

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                      • #12
                        Re: Winner takes ALL

                        Originally posted by trubrit2411 View Post
                        "I know from past experience that compelling youngsters to do things won't work."

                        Thats what the Birch and the Cat o Nine Tails was for Don. B
                        eat the little twats....


                        Fukk me, you'd be sacked for even thinking that.
                        "We're surrounded on all sides... Good... you're obviously in the right place".

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                          Wuz listening ta 5 live on the wireless n it were on about the number o teachers fukkin off in the present climate of none corporal punishment policy. The numbers who,d bin twatted wuz astounding, many finishing up wi broken limbs n ending up in hossy. Even moor astounding wuz the ages of the offenders, ranging from 6 year olds up to big fukk off 6th formers. Fukkin ell! ow times av changed! Tha got twatted just fer opening thee gob when tha shudda bin quiet when I wuz a bin lid n when tha got owder n full o theesen n fancied avin a pop at one o the male teachers, all WW11 veterans, they,d tek their coo-at off n square up ta call thee bluff, so black mince pie or soor german bands was the choice tha got. No one went fer the black mince pie! As a school teacher I,d give me career length of service two fukkin minutes at the very most!

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                            Originally posted by Dave Burgess View Post
                            Wuz listening ta 5 live on the wireless n it were on about the number o teachers fukkin off in the present climate of none corporal punishment policy. The numbers who,d bin twatted wuz astounding, many finishing up wi broken limbs n ending up in hossy. Even moor astounding wuz the ages of the offenders, ranging from 6 year olds up to big fukk off 6th formers. Fukkin ell! ow times av changed! Tha got twatted just fer opening thee gob when tha shudda bin quiet when I wuz a bin lid n when tha got owder n full o theesen n fancied avin a pop at one o the male teachers, all WW11 veterans, they,d tek their coo-at off n square up ta call thee bluff, so black mince pie or soor german bands was the choice tha got. No one went fer the black mince pie! As a school teacher I,d give me career length of service two fukkin minutes at the very most!
                            SIX.....of the best. Headmaster told me at 14 he was sick of caning me. lol. He tried to get round me earlier ( I think) by making me the Milk Monitor. Remember that little bottle of milk we had every day ? Well I was flogging to anybody with a spare copper and somebody shopped me. So there we was again. Bend over !!!!! I got to watch his right Burgundy Wingtip lift every stroke of the cane through me legs. Did me no harm. Course you could not tell the old lady or you got it again.
                            "If they control your speech.....they control your life"
                            Me


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                              Originally posted by bob9739 View Post
                              Advocated that for a long time Billy, introduce National Service again, and give them something to think about other than themselves !


                              Don't know about the same uniform though?
                              wide baggy short trousers...mind you

                              The vote is still open down the page.
                              Last edited by HappyJack; 16 March 2018, 13:08.
                              Non nobis Domine, non nobis, sed nomini tuo da gloriam
                              A Great Civilization is not Conquered from without
                              Until it has destroyed itself from within
                              W.Durant

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