EU vote

[johnb]

In or out of Europe you guys
would leaving be unwise?
I think better staying in
get more control from within.

[Pat Harley]

Re: EU vote

Out,out,out must be the way
Let Great Britain have it's day
Lies from both sides mar the debate
But get us out before it's too late!!!!

[johnb]

Re: EU vote

Out,out,out must be the way
Let Great Britain have it's day
Lies from both sides mar the debate
But get us out before it's too late!!!!

The Germans are more efficient tho'
football, politics they run the show.
Lets join them, hold their hand
in years to come we'll take command.

[stephenfrank]

Re: EU vote

They may be more efficient
and they may make better cars
but we've beat them in 2 world wars
so they can shove it up their arse.

[Pat Harley]

Re: EU vote

We may with the Germans link a hand
But never will they let us share command
While Cameron and his ilk are in charge
Our chances are that of a sinking barge!
The immigrant issue should tip the vote
The channel must remain our countries moat
Pull up the drawbridge man the defences
Leave Johnny Foreigner to house Abdul's wenches!

[stephenfrank]

Re: EU vote

We may with the Germans link a hand
But never will they let us share command
While Cameron and his ilk are in charge
Our chances are that of a sinking barge!
The immigrant issue should tip the vote
The channel must remain our countries moat
Pull up the drawbridge man the defences
Leave Johnny Foreigner to house Abdul's wenches!

that's almost Shakespearean Pat, but I get an extra vote for rhyming cars with arse.

[johnb]

Re: EU vote

They may be more efficient
and they may make better cars
but we've beat them in 2 world wars
so they can shove it up their arse.

Wee, sleekit, cow'rin, tim'rous beastie,
O, what a panic in thy wee breastie!
Wouldst thou run from the beaten hun
stay in Europe have some fun.

[Pat Harley]

Re: EU vote

that's almost Shakespearean Pat, but I get an extra vote for rhyming cars with arse.

Fair enough Steve,the poetry prize is yours!If I was a Maureen I'd be waving a pillowcase by now,but this'll have to do!

[johnb]

Re: EU vote

We may with the Germans link a hand
But never will they let us share command
While Cameron and his ilk are in charge
Our chances are that of a sinking barge!
The immigrant issue should tip the vote
The channel must remain our countries moat
Pull up the drawbridge man the defences
Leave Johnny Foreigner to house Abdul's wenches!

Now all the youth of England was on fire
the rules of Europe our desire.
In and at 'em, they'll be no rest
the youth of Empire knows whats best.

[Dave Burgess]

Re: EU vote

I,ve already posted me "OUT" vote. Now wether it will get counted is open to debate?

[Pat Harley]

Re: EU vote

Now all the youth of England was on fire
the rules of Europe our desire.
In and at 'em, they'll be no rest
the youth of Empire knows whats best.

Youth is wasted on youth as someone said
What's needed now is an old wise head
Cameron may prance and for 'IN' will tout
But what we need is OUT OUT OUT!

[johnb]

Re: EU vote

I,ve already posted me "OUT" vote. Now wether it will get counted is open to debate?

you'll regret that dave-look at the rewards

Better off on the relay team: 10 reasons why the EU is good for Britain

If Labour wants to fend off attacks from UKIP and the Conservatives at the next election, it has to make the case for Europe: both in the media, and on the doorsteps. In order to win the argument, Labour needs more than one answer to the question: “why should Britain stay in the EU?” Here are ten reasons why we’re better off in:

1. Free trade
As part of the single market, the EU has free trade between all its member states. This is great for UK businesses, who don’t have to worry about quotas or import taxes. As such, almost 50% of our exports go to the EU. (The EU also has an iron tariff wall against non-members, which we don’t want to be on the wrong side of.)

2. The EU encourages investment in Britain
The EU has attracted millions of pounds in foreign investment. Large manufacturers and commercial service providers invest in the UK because it is a bridge to the single market. If the UK walked away, it would become a bridge to nowhere. If you’re a multinational company, with a choice between building a factory in cast-adrift Britain or single-market France, the right business decision is obvious.

3. Police coordination
How did we get the Spanish police to capture Andrew Moran, the escaped armed robber? Through the European Arrest Warrant. Thanks to the EU, the Costa del Crime is no longer a hiding place for UK criminals, and nor is anywhere else in the EU.

4. EU Structural Funds
Structural Funds are the large pot of money that gets distributed among the most deprived areas in the EU. For many years they have contributed to investment and infrastructure across the UK: especially in Northern Ireland, Yorkshire and Cornwall. Over the next five years, England alone will receive over £6 billion in Structural Funds, Wales £2 billion, Scotland £795 million, and Northern Ireland £457 million.

5. Influence within Europe
If we want the EU to work in Britain’s interests, then we need to be involved in EU decision-making. France and Germany will have no incentive to listen to Britain if we’re not playing on the same team. If Britain leaves the EU, there will be no one to stand up for British interests when decisions are made that affect us, such as changes to trade or investment laws.

6. Influence outside Europe
Strength in numbers is more than just a saying. At the global negotiating table, the UK could be an insignificant little country with an insignificant loner economy. Or, it could be the leading partner in the biggest combined economy in the world (with a GDP of just under €13 trillion). Which is the more influential position to be in? If the UK is competing in the ‘global race’, as David Cameron claims, then we’re better off on the relay team.

7. Immigration- good for Britain
Immigration, when unchecked, can obviously have a lot of downsides. But immigration generally has been very good for Britain, and we shouldn’t be afraid to say it. The EU’s immigration policy makes it easier for tourists to come and spend money, and it makes it easier to attract highly skilled workers like doctors or engineers when we suffer from skill shortages.

8. Emigration- good for the British
The other side of the immigration coin is emigration: British people are free to live, work and go on holiday wherever they want in the EU, without having to get an expensive visa or go through time-consuming bureaucracy. The Conservatives should love this, really: instead of getting on your bike, now you can get on a ferry!
9. Market fairness.

This one is a bit more technical: through its extensive competition law, the EU ensures that capitalism actually works. For example, when a government department contracts out a service, it has to ‘put it to tender’ i.e. ensure that several companies bid competitively for the contract. The contract can’t simply be handed over to the company that took the Minister out for a nice dinner; and that’s because of EU competition law.

10. The EU safeguards workers’ rights.
This might just be the most important reason to stay in the EU. Four weeks paid holiday a year, the 48 hour working week, anti-discrimination law, guaranteed rights for agency workers, guaranteed worker consultation- all of these protections exist because of the EU.

[bob9739]

Re: EU vote

We seemed to manage quite adequately before we went into it, so I have no problems with leaving it ! And as for the Eurozone, I'm pleased we never went into it, I think we subsidise enough with the payments already made to Europe for the current membership, without having to subsidise economies such as Greece, Italy, Spain, and others who are in deep financial shit. And do you really want to belong to a superstate with open door policies to all and sundry, I think Frau Merkel is deeply regretting that one. This is an island which has limited space, and what space we have is precious enough to defend against the rapid filtration of economic migrants, which are a drain on our recourses such as benefits, health, housing, and employment. Charity begins at home, let's keep it that way !. Again I make no apologies fo my views, this is how I feel about it !

[johnb]

Re: EU vote

Youth is wasted on youth as someone said
What's needed now is an old wise head
Cameron may prance and for 'IN' will tout
But what we need is OUT OUT OUT!

Without youth first there'd be no wise heads

Name a wise old head
not one thats dead.

[johnb]

Re: EU vote

We seemed to manage quite adequately before we went into it, so I have no problems with leaving it ! And as for the Eurozone, I'm pleased we never went into it, I think we subsidise enough with the payments already made to Europe for the current membership, without having to subsidise economies such as Greece, Italy, Spain, and others who are in deep financial shit. And do you really want to belong to a superstate with open door policies to all and sundry, I think Frau Merkel is deeply regretting that one. This is an island which has limited space, and what space we have is precious enough to defend against the rapid filtration of economic migrants, which are a drain on our recourses such as benefits, health, housing, and employment. Charity begins at home, let's keep it that way !. Again I make no apologies fo my views, this is how I feel about it !

we are managing quite adequately now we are in the eu-if it wasn't for labours Tony Blair and his mad attack on Iraq there would be very few migrants adrift