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  • #16
    Re: Bit of SS History

    Barbaric is the only description that come close, when we hear about the various attempts made on Hitlers life and then the executions dished out to the perpetrators like hung with piano wire from meat hooks, guillotined, shot. It is little wonder when asked why ? An officer called Ewald Von Kliest said, " it is difficult in a Dictatorship, because everyone likes his own life ! Says it all really.
    Bob (geordie) Watts

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    • #17
      Re: Bit of SS History

      Originally posted by Pat Harley View Post
      That's always been my argument during these type of discussions in the pub,that someone,several someones,would ask WHY? when the order was given.In Europe,as can still be seen today in the events in Serbia,Croatia etc,they still like to be led by a single 'Strong Man',and will slavishly follow orders,no matter how reprehensible,killing en masse whoever is ordered.That is the main difference between 'Them' and 'Us',and another reason why we should pull out of Europe.Of course to the East we have ISIS/IS or whatever the scum are calling themselves this week,and they are another kettle of extremely stinking fish.They kill in vast numbers simply because they've failed to rise from the 12th century swamp that bred them,where they learned to kill for the sake of killing,simply to induce fear in those around them,making them appear powerful while remaining the cowardly snivelling schoolyard bullies they really were/are.These scum really do need wiping from the face of the earth to the last man,repeatedly as they will emerge every now and then to carry on the killing that is the sole reason for their cult's existence!
      ...which is continued and supported by the Islamic State(s) !!

      Who was it that said destroy Mecca - then pursue and kill all Muslims ??
      Read it somewhere - Bobs post about slavishly following religious beliefs caused me to remember the phrase.

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      • #18
        Re: Bit of SS History

        I just don't think that could happen in Britain. Don't know why but I don't think that it could

        Anyone in GB who has had dealings with the DHSS, Council Tax officials, ATOS, Traffic Wardens, Police and certain other official bodies will tell you that it can happen here. The willing participants more than ready to victimise their fellow Brits can be found, lurking amongst the ranks of those organisations listed.

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        • #19
          Re: Bit of SS History

          Originally posted by treeman View Post
          I just don't think that could happen in Britain. Don't know why but I don't think that it could

          Anyone in GB who has had dealings with the DHSS, Council Tax officials, ATOS, Traffic Wardens, Police and certain other official bodies will tell you that it can happen here. The willing participants more than ready to victimise their fellow Brits can be found, lurking amongst the ranks of those organisations listed.

          .....and so say all of us.............especially Traffic Wardens !!

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          • #20
            Re: Bit of SS History

            Originally posted by treeman View Post
            I just don't think that could happen in Britain. Don't know why but I don't think that it could

            Anyone in GB who has had dealings with the DHSS, Council Tax officials, ATOS, Traffic Wardens, Police and certain other official bodies will tell you that it can happen here. The willing participants more than ready to victimise their fellow Brits can be found, lurking amongst the ranks of those organisations listed.

            You make us out as bad people, but she had been parked for ten minutes and THREE seconds when collecting her pension, It's not my fault her zimmer frame got caught up in a drain and she dropped her poppy collection tin! I had to give her a ticket.
            Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!

            You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life."
            Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill (1874-1965)

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            • #21
              Re: Bit of SS History

              Wuz telling Chris (Treeman) over a pint a few weeks ago when we somehow gorron to parking problems you come across in busy towns and cities.
              Took the "Trouble" for an appointment at one o the big f.ck off Hossy,s in Shiny Sheff, and as usual, official car park full, streets all around like one big f.ck off car park, not a space to be had. So pulled into dropping off only point, thinking, "f.ck it!" Just locking up, when outa nowhere jumps f.ckin Parking Patawayo, big smirk on boat race and tells me if I f.ck off and leave the jam jar theer, the c.nt iz gunna av me clamped. On me own, I wudda twatted the c.nt then lobbed im in the boot till I,d done, but the "Trouble" being of a more sensitive nature and gerrin in a state of upset, advised me to drop her off and go and look fer somewhere else to park, which very reluctantly I did. Leaving Patawayo with big f.ck off grin on iz boat race. TWAT!
              Manages to squeeze in someweer in a side St. then f.ck off to the hossy to pick the "Trouble" up. Surprise, surprise, on the way back to the jam jar, we come across Patawayo smugly sitting on the low hossy wall writing a ticket out fer some poor c.nt he,d captured, so as we approached, I sed to the "Trouble", "watch this c.nt", and as we passed, I gave him a gentle push that knocked him over the wall flat on iz Union Jack. At the double back to the jam jar with the "Trouble" givin me the owd "hooligan" ear bashin, I glance back to see Patawayo gerrin back to iz feet, hat cock eyed, and glasses round the side of iz boat race, Fred Scuttle look alike!
              "Trouble" ad reight face on over the incident, but wots f.ckin new! But I still laff me bollox off when I think of it!

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              • #22
                Re: Bit of SS History

                To return to Subject re executions of Allied troops one of the best known incidents occured on Operation Frankton. A raid on enemy shipping in Bordeaux Harbour which took place between the 7th. to 12th. December 1942. 6 'Cockleshell' canoes manned by Royal Marines led by a Major Herbert Hasler. Deployed from a British Submarine off the mouth of the Goronne River which led to the city of Bordeaux. It was 2 men to a canoe. These they paddled into the river except 1 which capsized and the crew hid in reeds but died of hypothermia. The remainder carried on but only 2 Canoes reached the Enemy Ships in Bordeaux Harbour. Here they attached 'Limped' mines to ships. Severe damage was caused to enemy Merchant Ships an Harbour facilities. Only 2 Canoes completed the mission. Of the 12 participants on ly 2 escaped and returned to Britain. They were Major Hasler and his Canoe mate Marine Sparks. The 8 remaining marines were captured shortly afterwards and executed by firing squad by the German SS. Hitler had ordered that ALL members of clandestine troops, Commandos, SOE Operatives, SAS, etc. were to be executed without trial.
                Last edited by Kanaka; 30 May 2015, 16:09.

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                • #23
                  Re: Bit of SS History

                  Originally posted by treeman View Post
                  I just don't think that could happen in Britain. Don't know why but I don't think that it could

                  Anyone in GB who has had dealings with the DHSS, Council Tax officials, ATOS, Traffic Wardens, Police and certain other official bodies will tell you that it can happen here. The willing participants more than ready to victimise their fellow Brits can be found, lurking amongst the ranks of those organisations listed.
                  One of the terms used in Combat stress that relates to them you mention Chris is; They walk amongst us.
                  Non nobis Domine, non nobis, sed nomini tuo da gloriam
                  A Great Civilization is not Conquered from without
                  Until it has destroyed itself from within
                  W.Durant

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                  • #24
                    Re: Bit of SS History

                    Originally posted by Kanaka View Post
                    To return to Subject re executions of Allied troops one of the best known incidents occured on Operation Frankton. A raid on enemy shipping in Bordeaux Harbour which took place between the 7th. to 12th. December 1942. 6 'Cockleshell' canoes manned by Royal Marines led by a Major Herbert Hasler. Deployed from a British Submarine off the mouth of the Goronne River which led to the city of Bordeaux. It was 2 men to a canoe. These they paddled into the river except 1 which capsized and the crew hid in reeds but died of hypothermia. The remainder carried on but only 2 Canoes reached the Enemy Ships in Bordeaux Harbour. Here they attached 'Limped' mines to ships. Severe damage was caused to enemy Merchant Ships an Harbour facilities. Only 2 Canoes completed the mission. Of the 12 participants on ly 2 escaped and returned to Britain. They were Major Hasler and his Canoe mate Marine Sparks. The 8 remaining marines were captured shortly afterwards and executed by firing squad by the German SS. Hitler had ordered that ALL members of clandestine troops, Commandos, SOE Operatives, SAS, etc. were to be executed without trial.
                    It was called "The Commando Order". A lot of Generals, Rommel being one, quietly rescinded it. However a lot did not and a lot of captured sneaky Petes got executed. Plus a few RAF got mixed in too.
                    "If they control your speech.....they control your life"
                    Me


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