Bit of SS History

[trubrit2411]

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/le-paradis-where-the-ss-killed-97-british-prisoners-on-may-27th-1940.html

[Kit Karson]

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RIP lads

[HappyJack]

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Good one Tony..............lest we forget.
I remember hearing that atrocity from history.
There was also some Yanks who had the same fate as them lads.
But can't remember where that was.
RIP lads.

[Pat Harley]

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Coincidentally on 'Dickinsons Real Deal' yesterday someone arrived with a lot of documents relating to his grandfather's service as a diplomat,soldier and lawyer,before during and after WW11.They included papers from the trial for this massacre and another in Germany both ordered by the same General.The dealer offered about 150 quid so he went to auction where they fetched a grand,with bids from the Intelligence Corps museum.

[Dave Burgess]

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Good one Tony..............lest we forget.
I remember hearing that atrocity from history.
There was also some Yanks who had the same fate as them lads.
But can't remember where that was.
RIP lads.

I think the massacre of the Americans John took place during the battle of the Bulge in the Ardennes?

[HappyJack]

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I think the massacre of the Americans John took place during the battle of the Bulge in the Ardennes?

Tanks Dave, (now there's a pun) will have to hunt the net.

[trubrit2411]

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Jhn you are thinking of the Malmedy Massacre with the Yanks. Done by Joachim Peipers mob.... but the Wawicks suffered one as well. A load of Brummies got executed on the retreat to Dunkirk.

http://www.worcestershireregiment.com/wr.php?main=inc/h_dunkirk_wormhoudt_massacre

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=malmedy+massacre&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Xh4G6ZBAro

[Pat Harley]

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That top one,Wormhoudt,was the other one mentioned in the papers on the programme.Think the General's name mentioned was Moenke or similar.

[bob9739]

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I know towards the end of the war men were actually drafted into the Waffen SS, whether they wanted to or not was irrelevant. What is relevant is the fact that these units committed atrocities of the worst kind on defenceless POW from all Nations, so the right to claim they were only doing their duty as ordinary soldiers does not wash with me.

[tudor]

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Knocklein and his lawyer asked for ( ? ) clemency,and the Judge also agreed as well - claiming he had a wife and four kids to support...

What about the 97 Norfolks that were murdered ? How many of THEIR number had wives and or Families to support ??

There was NO mention of that.....


In addition to the list that Tone put up and the programme Pat saw - I remember that several captured SAS Troopers were summarily executed in similar fashion ( no trial and shot at the side of a road ) also somewhere in France,Bilbo told me that he was planning to go there and check that their graves were looked after and that a Plaque was to be raised at the place of the massacre.

[Dave Burgess]

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The box head bastards also murdered the Airborne Glider troops in Norway after their failed attempt to sabotage the Heavy Water plant.

[HappyJack]

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As I said earlier, the more I read and see stories on the TV about the atrocities,
the more I feel humble / thankful at what our fathers and fore fathers and all those who
were in WW11 had gone through.

[bob9739]

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John we don't have to look any further than the BBC News to realise that the same fanatical obedience to religion or political leaders is still followed to this day, it's all well and good people saying its a lesson learned from the past , but the perpetrators couldn't give a shite about that. They are just hell bent on world domination, and aren't worried at all as to how it is achieved !

[trubrit2411]

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Those early massacres on the retreat to Dunkirk should have set the tone for what was to come, had the powers to be believed the reports by the French Resistance. They thought it was exaggerated.
The geezers in the Ministry of War couldnt believe that German troops would have behaved in such a fashion. In effect it was just the tip of the iceberg of what was to come. They really got the massacre thing down in Poland Ukraine and Russia. Personally I think that Stalin at the Yalta meeting was right when he said 100 000 German Officers should be executed right off the bat as soon as Berlin was captured.

Churchill went nuts and Roosevelt thought he was kidding but he was not. Me.... I would have slotted every last SS man Especially the Totenkopfverbande that were responsible for the Konzentration lagers (Concentration Camps) The Venichtungslager (Extermination Camps) and the Arbeitslagers (Forced Labour Camps). The Einsatzkomandos that did the mass shootings of the Jews of East Europe. I would have killed the lot. All of them. Plus any Wermacht and Police units, and the were some, like Order Police Battalion 101. I would have let none escape. I would have hunted the bastards till it was not possible for them to be any longer alive.

They lost the war the minute they gassed the first kid. How did they think the world would let them get away with it. The blokes that did not agree with it, and there were tons, should have snuffed all the top Nazis on the same day. Which I suppose Operation Valkyrie was all about. To this day I cant wrap me head around the concept of those Camps. I can't figure out how they found the blokes to conceive, plan, develope, build and most of all staff those places.
I just don't think that could happen in Britain. Don't know why but I don't think that it could.

[Pat Harley]

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That's always been my argument during these type of discussions in the pub,that someone,several someones,would ask WHY? when the order was given.In Europe,as can still be seen today in the events in Serbia,Croatia etc,they still like to be led by a single 'Strong Man',and will slavishly follow orders,no matter how reprehensible,killing en masse whoever is ordered.That is the main difference between 'Them' and 'Us',and another reason why we should pull out of Europe.Of course to the East we have ISIS/IS or whatever the scum are calling themselves this week,and they are another kettle of extremely stinking fish.They kill in vast numbers simply because they've failed to rise from the 12th century swamp that bred them,where they learned to kill for the sake of killing,simply to induce fear in those around them,making them appear powerful while remaining the cowardly snivelling schoolyard bullies they really were/are.These scum really do need wiping from the face of the earth to the last man,repeatedly as they will emerge every now and then to carry on the killing that is the sole reason for their cult's existence!