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    The Sorrow And The Pity

    This is a French documentary made in 1969 about the French reaction to the German Occupation. It was banned immediately, and remained banned for twenty odd years. If you watch this you will forget everything you thought you knew about the French during the war.
    There was almost no resistance to the Krauts. Very little. Most just accepted the new situation and a big percentage thought it was going to be just fine. Even better than what they had.
    German General Warlimont is talking about "certain elements" of the French Govt in meetings with the Germans about a Military Alliance against us.... the British.
    The Germans turned them down. Hitler thought they would be a burden. This is and eyeopener to say the least.
    By the way. It was ALL our fault. A lot of anti British sentiment expressed in this film.

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    Here is the Wiki .... by the way that film is in two parts

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sorrow_and_the_Pity
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    I read somewhere years ago that the famed French 'Resistance' took 19 months to kill their first German after the occupation. Meanwhile,during the same period they were respnsible for the killing or betrayal of dozens of agents sent to France by SOE to assist them in their 'struggle'.
    Cowardly,collaborating,treacherous,cheese eating surrender monkey twats!!

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    Here's is bit more on anti British Sentiment.

    It could be a load of nonsense though. Because according to this scale France, South Korea, Ghana, Canada and the Yoonited States likes us.....more than we like ourselves

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    Kunts don,t like uz cos when we were "GREAT!" we ad the biggest Empire the World az ever seen, in fact tha kunt see the sun set on it. These days, the only Empire we av iz the flea pit flick gaff just down the street!

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    Needless to say the top of the list on that scale are the ........... (big fanfare)........... Argies. Wonder why

    Well Dave... the Empire was'nt about popularity contests. It was all about unleashing the Toms and nicking countries, then pinching all their goodies. I mean.... WTF ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Burgess View Post
    Kunts don,t like uz cos when we were "GREAT!" we ad the biggest Empire the World az ever seen, in fact tha kunt see the sun set on i These days, the only Empire we av iz the flea pit flick gaff just down the street!
    Dave . called Great Britain in days gone by ,but what was the purpose ,to make the rich , richer,they stole billions from the Eastern ,countries India China n a lot more not for the soldiers that were doing the fighting,they were expendable, just for the Greedy ruling classes,things hiv'nae changed a lot,I got a lot o' money n I need more

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    The purpose was it was going to be done anyway once the grab was on. If not by us, then by the Spanish French Belgians et al. The ones that fell under British Dominion were the lucky ones. Ask the South American indigenous Indians of the Pampas (if you can find any). Or maybe the Aztecs or the Incas or for that matter the Lakota Sioux..... Maybe the Congolese. The list goes on and on.
    Once discovered these so called untamed savage nations were like ripe plums on tree waiting to be picked. If you were a native, as things turned out, you would have done very well ifi t was Brits that sailed up your river or up to your beach, came ashore and planted the Union Jack....because the Spanish or the Portuguese or Belgians......... just did not bear thinking about.
    In a lot of instances it was not about what we did, but what we stopped. Google the Sudan, General Gordon and the Khalifa........ Or the Mefcane
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    Tone, couldn't get it to play for some reason. Not really surprised about the actions of the French, Marshal Petain, formed the Vichy Government. They collaborated with the Germans throughout the war. Most of the resistance movement were communists, which had no time for the Nazis, but didn't want General Degaule to run the Country on liberation. Which I suppose leaves the majority of French Citizens, to be complacent about the occupation, and just get on with their lives as best they could. I also suppose that Churchills decision to sink the French Fleet, rather than let it fall into German hands went down like a lead balloon.
    Again recent events with Brexit and the EU have brought to the fore the arrogance and ill will towards the British by many member states, It's only my own opinion, but I feel we made the right decision to leave. Otherwise we would have lost our national identity, being part of a Federated Army, Federated State, which to me smacks of Dictatorship ! And it would seem that the Parting comment from the EU, Good Riddance, is a contradiction seeing as they tried all ways to prevent us from leaving. Financial I believe !
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim scott View Post
    Dave . called Great Britain in days gone by ,but what was the purpose ,to make the rich , richer,they stole billions from the Eastern ,countries India China n a lot more not for the soldiers that were doing the fighting,they were expendable, just for the Greedy ruling classes,things hiv'nae changed a lot,I got a lot o' money n I need more
    Very true Jim, let the plebs do the feightin n the toffs grab the stolen riches, nowt ever changes! Which thick kunt coined the phrase, "A country fit for heroes!"? Deffo some shiny arsed toff twat and not a battle weary Tom who came home from WW1 to no job and very little prospects of a bright future!

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    The purpose was it was going to be done anyway once the grab was on. If not by us, then by the Spanish French Belgians et al. The ones that fell under British Dominion were the lucky ones. Ask the South American indigenous Indians of the Pampas (if you can find any). Or maybe the Aztecs or the Incas or for that matter the Lakota Sioux..... Maybe the Congolese. The list goes on and on.
    Once discovered these so called untamed savage nations were like ripe plums on tree waiting to be picked. If you were a native, as things turned out, you would have done very well ifi t was Brits that sailed up your river or up to your beach, came ashore and planted the Union Jack....because the Spanish or the Portuguese or Belgians......... just did not bear thinking about.
    In a lot of instances it was not about what we did, but what we stopped. Google the Sudan, General Gordon and the Khalifa........ Or the Mefcane
    Excellent summary, agree with Jim in that most of it was driven by money grubbing, but once the countries were 'settled' the Brits brought infrastructure, law, a governance where there had been none, of course the Brits did all of this so that they could better exploit and control the countries, but the alternatives at that time were military subjugation by (mainly) our ex EU 'friends'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Burgess View Post
    Very true Jim, let the plebs do the feightin n the toffs grab the stolen riches, nowt ever changes! Which thick kunt coined the phrase, "A country fit for heroes!"? Deffo some shiny arsed toff twat and not a battle weary Tom who came home from WW1 to no job and very little prospects of a bright future!

    Spot on Dave , The point I am making ,always benefited the shiny arses ,never the tom

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    Shades of the great Rudyard Kiplings poem "Tommy" Jim.

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    Tone, couldn't get it to play for some reason. Not really surprised about the actions of the French, Marshal Petain, formed the Vichy Government. They collaborated with the Germans throughout the war. Most of the resistance movement were communists, which had no time for the Nazis, but didn't want General Degaule to run the Country on liberation. Which I suppose leaves the majority of French Citizens, to be complacent about the occupation, and just get on with their lives as best they could. I also suppose that Churchills decision to sink the French Fleet, rather than let it fall into German hands went down like a lead balloon.
    Again recent events with Brexit and the EU have brought to the fore the arrogance and ill will towards the British by many member states, It's only my own opinion, but I feel we made the right decision to leave. Otherwise we would have lost our national identity, being part of a Federated Army, Federated State, which to me smacks of Dictatorship ! And it would seem that the Parting comment from the EU, Good Riddance, is a contradiction seeing as they tried all ways to prevent us from leaving. Financial I believe !
    It plays for me in La La Land no sweat. I bet its blocked in Europe..... Stifled more like it Bob.... It dont fit the image the Froggies have been pushing all these years.
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    Be careful. I tried to open it on my iPad and Apple sent me a message saying it was trying to install a virus.
    I have always set myself a very low standard, and constantly fail to achieve it.

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    Its normal here but maybe done should delete that then.
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    This website has spell check ? It changed Don to done.... above
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    Or maybe it was sausage finger!

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    Quote Originally Posted by trubrit2411 View Post
    This website has spell check ? It changed Don to done.... above
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    It has spell check, but not auto complete, so fat finger it is.
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    The master has spoken!

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    Awrite
    Maybe you should delete it though if it has a chance of a virus. I dont want to wipe somebodies 'puter out.
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